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Mar. 15th, 2006

02:30 am - Galactica

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From:bazzalisk
Date:March 15th, 2006 12:00 pm (UTC)
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I wouldn't say that the humans were "becoming corrupted" humans behave like that, humans have always behaved like that. On Kobal number six tells Baltar that "human beings invented murder". The Cylons and humans seem roughly equal moraly speaking - they both commit apalling atrocities (and don't forget that the cylons were originaly engineered as a slave-race for the humans) and show no remorse for it.

To be honest both sides seem inclined to think of the other as "not realy peopl". Which may be the point the series is trying to get accross.

In the end, no, I very much doubt Thorne could have been courtmartialed - since Sharon is just a machine as far as most of the humans are concerned - she may look human, but she doesn't have a soul, and isn't a person.

Also I seem to recall that Kali's crime wasn't even property damage - it was unauthorised discharge of a firearm.
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From:johnckirk
Date:March 15th, 2006 12:48 pm (UTC)
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Yes, you're right about Kali's crime - I remembered that after I'd gone to bed.

I was wondering how significant it was that Sharon looks human; there was an argument that Maddox made in the TNG episode "Measure of a Man" (the court case about whether Data counted as property), where he said "If Data looked like a toaster then we wouldn't be having this conversation, so you're all just anthropomorphising him based on his appearance." I don't think that's skewing my judgment much, although this particular crime only makes sense against someone/something that looks human, so it's tricky to imagine a control experiment (e.g. raping the Enterprise computer).

More generally, it maoy be significant that I'm thinking of Sharon as a good person, more specifically than just a person. Having said that (and without asking for spoilers!), even if it turned out that it was all just an act, and she was in communication with the rest of the Cylon fleet, that still wouldn't justify Thorne's behaviour. When President Roslyn wanted to throw her out of an airlock recently, that mainly bothered me because she'd broken her word (having guaranteed Sharon's safety about 2 minutes beforehand) - if she'd said that from the start, then I'd disagree, but I'd accept her decision. I think it would be more merciful to shoot someone first (quick death rather than slow death), but even suffocating wouldn't be as bad as what went on in that jail cell.
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