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Mar. 31st, 2007

08:45 pm - Dr Who-oo (hey!)

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From:susannahf
Date:April 1st, 2007 08:42 am (UTC)

CPR

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Yes, I was shouting at that too. 5:1 did used to be the ratio for children up to the most recent guideline change, (and I think it still might be for medically trained personnel), but it sure as hell hasn't been an adult ratio for at least 5 years.
I can think of two possible explanations. Firstly, she's a medical student, and a lot of them don't learn CPR until near the end of their pre-clinical. But she's clinical, so that doesn't hold up. Second, 15:2 or 30:2 take a long time to do a cycle, which looks boring from a dramatic point of view.

Guess which one I'm going for...
In another issue, she should know that CPR probably doesn't /actually/ work by compressing the heart(s), it works by altering the pressure in the chest cavity. So she probably didn't need to do two sets of compressions. Oh, and I didn't see much of a breathing check going on there either. Or indeed a shout for help.
Conclusion: She would have failed any of my courses.
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From:johnckirk
Date:April 2nd, 2007 12:39 am (UTC)

Re: CPR

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Thanks for the second opinion - it's nice to know that I'm not the only person who keeps count when I see CPR in TV episodes or films :) I was a bit worried that you'd say something like "Actually, she's following the draft version of the 2008 protocols", which would have made me look a bit silly, so I'm glad you didn't.

My third possible explanation is that the writer just didn't know any better, e.g. if he's half remembering a Baywatch episode that he saw ages ago. Do you happen to know how standard the ratios are across different countries? E.g. I'm guessing that the USA don't necessarily follow the advice of the UK resus council.

The bit about pressure in the chest cavity is interesting - I hadn't heard that before. As for breathing checks, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, since the rhino had used his handheld scanner to say that the Doctor was dead, although I'd personally repeat the test myself. Mind you, there was something similar that bothered me about the most recent episode of "Lost", so you might want to read my other post about that (I'm guessing that spoilers won't affect you if you're not watching that series at all).
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